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Out of body experiences or if they exist, why can’t we prove it?

Out of body experience

Astral travel or out of body experiences… if they are real, then why can’t anyone prove it? This question has been frustrating me lately, so , today, I decided to put this question to my guide.

This is a channelled conversation with the answers indented in italics.

So, if Out of Body experiences are real, then how come no one is able to prove it?

This is actually not quite true. There are certainly cases where people have seen things in their astral body which they can later verify. However, it’s not easy to replicate. It does take a tremendous amount of energy to view this world from the astral levels.

Really? How so?

It’s all on a different vibrational level.

And…

Well, you can’t see the astral levels from the earth 3D level. It’s in a different place. Or rather, you can’t see it with normal senses. You can certainly see them with your mind’s eye or if you are attuned psychically.

Some are actually able to spiritualize their body, meaning raise their vibrations to such a high level, that can they enter the astral levels in that way, but as a general rule, you can’t see the astral levels while in a human body and you can’t see this 3D level while in an astral body. At least not very clearly.

Another thing to take into account here is that the astral levels are very easy to manipulate. You can make anything you imagine appear. While it will have substance to you on that level, it is of a much higher vibration and so will not have the same weightiness that object on earth will have. Before you ask, astral constructs are more like shells or facades, rather than something that has real substance to it.

What you see of this world while in the astral is also overlayed by the astral constructions by either ourselves, or other beings.

So, you’re saying that what we see here while viewed from the astral is mostly illusion?

You can liken it trying to view the bottom of the ocean from the surface. It gets denser and murkier, and the deeper you go, the harder it becomes to make out anything.

So, you’re saying that while we’re in the astral, we can’t see the 3D world clearly?

Correct. This is why it’s so hard to validate your experiences. Now, the closer you are to your body, the more dense your vibrations become, due to you being close to your own grounding source. So it becomes much easier to view things closer to where you are sleeping. The further away you go, though, the harder it becomes.

As mentioned, you can do it, but it takes a tremendous amount of energy, and it is exhausting.

The other thing is that for many people, the last thing they want to be doing while having an OBE is trying to prove it’s real. They are enjoying the experience too much.

So, no one will be able to prove it in scientific terms?

The experiments suggested for proving it are not practical because they lack the understanding of the physics of the situation. It’s akin to saying that there is no bottom of the ocean, simply because you cannot go there in your current physical form.

The day will come when people have advanced enough for OBE’s to be the norm, and they will need no proof as they will just be experiencing it for themselves.

And really, how do you prove such things to those who can’t experience it? It’s like trying to prove sight to a blind person. They have to take it completely on faith that it is so.

Okay, well thank you for that.

I wonder if anyone else has thoughts and experiences on this subject.

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Spirit Guides – Part 4 – I hope Marvel doesn’t sue me. :)

The following blog  is a 8 part series on Spirit Guides, my experiences, and what you might do in order to contact your own. 

Enjoy

Discovering the Dakini – Part 2

Mind travelling is a kind of astral travel. You can’t class it as an out of body experience, though. It’s where you are fully conscious but your mind is viewing things elsewhere. Many people do it, and dismiss it as day dreams, though experience has taught me that it may be anything but.

As mentioned in the last entry, I felt a very strong compulsion to be somewhere, so I followed it.

I found myself in what you might term an astral level. For some reason, I wasn’t happy, and I began to shake these astral corridors and filled them with light. Those corridors are like sub areas in the planes where entities can hide from view but are still able to observe. Somehow, I was able to shake them out and into view and I recall many entities running for cover.

I then felt myself darting about the place at an extremely fast pace, as though I was avoiding something. Suddenly I came across the giant lizard again. However, something about it looked odd. It was just standing there. It did not react to my presence in any way. It was as though it was waiting for something.

Next to it was this machine which was producing small dark bubbles. I had come across these machines before in my mind journeys, and I felt that the purpose was to produce certain types of energy, maybe for attacks or to corrupt auras.

I then heard a voice instructing me to destroy the machine. As I felt that whatever it was, it wasn’t a good thing to have around I decided to do just that.

Then the same voice urged me to destroy the lizard. However, I didn’t make a move. Destroying anything sentient was against who I was. Even though people had, in the past,  urged me to destroy evil or dark beings, I found I just couldn’t do it.

It was then that I noticed the lizard didn’t seem real. I took a closer look and found it wasn’t. It was clearly a decoy.  Then the real one appeared behind me.

In retrospect, I figured there were two scenarios here. If I had attacked the decoy I would  have been ambushed. I also would have left myself wide open to the lizard’s energies as engaging in battle would have attuned me to those energies, leaving me vulnerable. (This is certainly the subject of another topic.)

The other was that it saw I wasn’t going to attack, so it felt it was safe to attack me as I probably wouldn’t defend myself or maybe I might not even be able to do so.

Either way, before it had a chance to do anything, I suddenly was surrounded by these tall beings. I looked at their faces and found they were hard to describe: Intense, severe, warrior like.  The right words don’t really come to me to explain it.

The word ‘Dakini’ flashed in my mind, and I watched as they surrounded the lizard, quickly neutralized it and then carried it away.

If I expected them to introduce themselves or make themselves known to me, I would have been disappointed. They acted as though meeting me was an everyday occurrence that was nothing special. I felt like I was just someone who they were very used to and hardly worth the acknowledgement. I found that very odd and interesting. The most I got was a glance and nod, like walking past a work colleague you see a dozen times a day and that was it.

The guiding voice in my mind told me later that they had been waiting for me to draw the lizard out so it could be taken away.

As a side note, curiously enough, I never heard again from the lady I had been chatting to after this event I don’t know if there was any connection between the two things, but it always felt like there was.

Over the next two or so days, I mulled over this incident, I felt there was to be more to this than met the eye.  I felt I was missing something here.

I also discussed it with my online friend, who said that she had had the Dakini turn up for her the week before.

Since I discovered that I could trace energies, I also had discovered that, I was able to trace them retrospectively, and thus identify many beings and the essence of people I had come across in my life, even if it was many years ago.

It took me a day or so, but it dawned on me that the guides who had been talking to me all my life, guiding me, protecting me, telling me who I was, and giving me so many other messages, had the same energy of the Dakini.

This was quite a mind blowing revelation to me. While this seemed to be one of those things where I wasn’t sure if it was suggestion on the part of people and the book or if it was real, it certainly felt right.

Next: Validation

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